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Subject: Subfolders for Hrefexchanger
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lance long
Posts:5

10 Aug 2006 3:01 AM  

There is one thing holding back my migration to DNN in general: subfolders.  

Currently, my sites have folders set up according to content theme.  This has three core purposes: 1) Usability - to help visitors understand how pages relate to each other, 2) SEO - to give the search bots better understanding of keywords and content theme and 3) Analytics - understand traffic patterns in different areas of the site. The last one alone was enough for my client to disqualify the platform. They simple can’t be without that intelligence.

I purchased Href exchanger for a test site www.hometeamrealestate.ca and love the new page names and obfuscation of the server technology.  Now I need the URLs to include the full path of the tabs to regain my folders. Would you please consider this feature?

Sincerely Lance

PS - what is this RTF edittor and can I use it with DNN?  It is one of the best I have come across.
Dylan Barber
Posts:2

28 Aug 2006 3:44 PM  

this is FCK editor and it is a project in DNN now

http://dotnetnuke.com/DotNetNukeProjects/ProviderFCKeditor0153/tabid/934/Default.aspx

lance long
Posts:5

09 Sep 2006 4:57 AM  

Thanks Dylan. 

Now can anyone address/reply to the subfolder issue?  The DNN rewrite system has folders so could we get that feature added to Hrefexchanger?

Anthony Glenwright
Posts:11217

14 Oct 2006 10:14 AM  
We have no plans to add folders to the generated urls at this stage.
Déclic Vidéo FX
Posts:16

29 Dec 2006 1:07 AM  
Posted By lance long on 10 Aug 2006 3:01 AM

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Now I need the URLs to include the full path of the tabs to regain my folders. Would you please consider this feature?
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Lance, I am about to buy HrefExchanger and I also have subfolders, but I do not understand your remark. I have just visited your website and find this Hrefexchanger a great tool !! However, I would like to be sure that it works with folders.
Déclic Vidéo FX
Déclic Vidéo FX
Posts:16

29 Dec 2006 1:09 AM  

Additionnal question Lance... Are you using DNN or not ?? I am lost. HrefExchanger changes the filename to .htm or keep the .aspx ???

 

DV

lance long
Posts:5

29 Dec 2006 3:50 AM  
Hello Déclic Vidéo FX,
Re: Folders. Regrettably subfolders are not supported or planned according to Anthony. This has forced me to use other solutions for different sites.

Re: DNN. Yes that site is run on DNN. A great part of Hrefexchanger is it will hide obvious signs of DNN and creates clean, indexable URLs.

Lance
Déclic Vidéo FX
Posts:16

29 Dec 2006 7:30 AM  
Excuse me, I am a french native speaker and beginner with DNN, maybe that's why I do not understand everything. What do you mean with subfolder ? In general, you have a menu, and submenu. For me, I have used subfolder for storing some images of submenu. Will it be a problem ?? Or what is your problem, could you give details, I do not understand, and with such a fear, I won't buy it if I am not fully convinced...

Concerning your web, do you mean that www.hometeamrealestate.ca is on DNN ???
In such case, it means that Hrefexchanger is changing .aspx to .htm files, correct ???

DV
lance long
Posts:5

29 Dec 2006 8:40 AM  
DV,

By subfolders I mean a page structure such as: /topic/page-name.html. HrefExchanger will instead create the link: /page-name.html. This means I can no long group stats by folder (topic). I now prefer Scott's http://www.ventrian.com/Resources/Projects/FriendlyUrls.aspx while that too has some limitations. Strong analytics is a fundamental requirement for some clients so I can’t forgo grouping visitors by folder.

As you are a beginner, you should understand that 90% of the URLs in DNN are redirects to a single page. There are only a couple physical files as you can see from the directory structure. DNN hijacks the request, parses out things like the domain and other variables. The domain will tell it what portal to load and the rest become variables. Ie, it takes: www.mydomain.com/home/tabid/23/somevar/34/default.aspx and translates it into: portal=3, /Default.aspx?tabid=23?somevar=34. There are exceptions for things like RSS feeds. Physical folders like /images/ etc. are outside this concept and I have had no trouble them.

My mini review of both: Hrefexchanger parses the page sometime before returning the HTML to the browser and changes the code. This means you can use the non-redirected format (second in the example above) to link to a page and it will do the work from there. Scotts, on the other hand, changes the way DNN builds URLs so it can take less resources. If you move pages around, Href will automatically update the URL whereas Scotts requires you revise any hand written friendly URLs. Scotts use the TabPath variable to create the proper folder structures where as Href leaves all pages at root. Scott uses CamelCaps for page names and doesn’t (yet) allow changes to the extension. Both are good! Href would be MUCH better if it too used the tabpath. (Hint, hint Anthony!)

Yes, HT is running on DNN. I have hidden the .aspx extension in favor of the .html extension for the reasons I state in my first post. I also chose '-' instead of '+' as a connecting character as I like the appearance better.

Scott’s is running on http://www.greenbuildingsbc.com as a comparison case.

L

I'm also relatively new to DNN so if anything here is technically incorrect, please let me know.
Déclic Vidéo FX
Posts:16

31 Dec 2006 12:20 AM  
Wow, this is maybe too much detailled and technical for me to understand for the moment, unfortunately... I will read further the manual I have just bought !! And be sure that I will come back. What thing which is missing, is a good comparison between HrefExchanger and FriendlyUrls. Both seems to do the same, but you do not know which one does what and how, like if everybody did not want to explain you, because of certain mystery... That's how I feel it !! Maybe I am not on the good forum to discuss this topic, of course, because we are making a comparative between two competitive module...

Well, for the moment I will stop here, I have small personnal problems preventing me from going further in the test and building my website. But be sure that I will come back to explain what I did, the solutions I found. I will certainly test both solutions (if it is possible to test FriendlyUrls).

Thanks for all and happy new year to everybody (joy, succes, and HEALTH) !

DV
PS: Do not blame me if I can not answer fast, I will be away for a moment.
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